Witness claims phone contacts from [REDACTED - Survivor]' lawyers and references flight manifests to refute alleged sexual contact

BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. What's her phone number? A. Her phone number is known to Virginia Roberts and presumably -- and to [REDACTED]’ lawyers because she received phone calls from [REDACTED]! lawyers. So all you have to do is ask your colleagues and you will get that. But I think there's no reason to put her phone number in the public record so that she will receive massive amounts of phone calls from the media. Seems to me that any -- that a judge would try to prevent that from happening. I would hope so. And I'm -- you can get the name and the phone number from my lawyer as long as it's -- MR. SCOTT: We'll provide that. A. --+ done off the record, not so that the media can see it. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. You just swore under oath that lawyers contacted Rebecca; is that correct? A. [swore under oath that I was told by Michael that lawyers contacted Rebecca, yes. Q. Which lawyers? A. I don't know the answer to that. Q. Did you ask him? wo Orn nub WNP NNNNNN FPP RP PRP PPP BP PR WU WN FP OW OY DM e® wY NR OO 231 more accomplished. MR. SCAROLA: Let's take it easy and slow. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. How did Michael tell you he knew these people he didn't speak to were lawyers? A. He told me that he received a phone call from [REDACTED]. That then his wife received numerous phone calls and texts from her all through the night. And that they received phone calls as well from her lawyers. One of them had a Miami phone number. And I don't know how he knew they were lawyers. But that's what he conveyed to me. Alll can tell you is what he told me, and I'm telling you that. Q. Did you ask him for the phone number? A. [did not. Q. Why not? A. | didn't think it was appropriate or necessary. Q. What was inappropriate about asking for the phone number to find out who was attempting to contact this witness? A. | was not particularly interested in that. All 1 was interested in was getting the truth from I did. And he said, I -- . He wouldn't answer that. . -- refuse to tell you? A. No, he didn’t know the answer to that either because he didn't return the phone calls. He said -- Q. How did he know they were lawyers if he didn't return the phone calls? A. Because they left messages, presumably. Q. With names that identified them as lawyers; is that right? MR. SCOTT: You're arguing with the witness -- A. [don't know the answer to that. MR. SCAROLA: No, I'm trying to find out whether there's any logical basis for the stories that the witness is telling. MR. SCOTT: And I think he's trying to explain it. And I think he's trying to do it in an easy, slow format. So, you know -- MR. SCAROLA: Okay. Well, let's take it easy -- MR. SCOTT: -- if we all take -- if we all take the tension down here, maybe we can get oO OI DM F&F WN NNNNN NPP RPP RP PP PP PB Ue WNP OW OMNIA UN FWNF OO 232 the witness and trying to prevent her from having a media barrage that would interfere with their lives. Q. You told Don Lemon on CNN that the flight manifests would exonerate you, prove that you were not in the same place at the same time as Virginia Roberts, correct? A. That's right. And that's true. Q. You also told Don Lemon, quote, "] am waiving the statute of limitations or any immunity." A. That's right. Q. You were then subsequently asked to waive the statute of limitations and refused to, correct? A. Absolutely false. I waived the statute of limitations by submitting a statement under oath. Had I not submitted that statement under oath, the statute of limitations would have been long gone. But by stating under oath categorically that I did not have any sexual contact with her, I waived the statute of limitations and could be prosecuted for the next five or so years for perjury in what I said was false. But what | said was true, so I have no fear of any statute of limitations or any criminal prosecution. So, yes, | did waive the statute of 14 (Pages 229 to 232) www. phippsreporting.com (888) 811-3408 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010796