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From: Bob Berwick e > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 4:12 PM To: Jeffrey E. Subject: Re: Jeffrey So your v=ew is that the social media jazz is a fad that will fizzle and fade fairly s=on, no? Bob On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Jeffrey E.=<jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com» w=ote: i will sp=nd all the time you like teaching you about investing and the markets. = simpler than it appears.. I woul= like chomsky to follow in the footsteps of hibert, turing ,&nb=p; and encourage work in their fiels by presenting goals to the disciples.<=r> On Sat, S=p 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Bob Berwick Hi Jeffrey, Ah very cool. So l=t me try a few out. I guess it partly (! of course=) depends on how much we get to stick into the box. I'm f=ne with prize money, mostly because as you know from Marvin, there'= no way to get funding for "real" problems like t=ese or those that Marvin studies, nsf & darpa and toyota (as y=u just saw) only care about self-driving cars. So I'd be o=erjoyed to get some way to fund new students.... =div> Challenge 1. Discriminating language from noise. Challenge 2. Ah, depends on the sente=ces and what 'coherent' means. Does Noam mean 0=800screwed up in some way'? We're not so far from t=at. Further than 1. That system I showed you that can isola=e difft factors in •syntax• as a small set of constraints can do s=me of that. Recall Shimon Ullman's 'rigidity prin=iple' about the interpretation of points moving in the vi=ual field - same coherence idea. Challenges 3 and 4=are much harder, we'd have to know more about emeaning0=99 and 'inference'. I wouldn't be happy w=th statistical curve fitting here. Finally - thoug= I will drop this, because your time is too valuable and the problems you a=d Noam pose are the important ones, to me — what was your=estimate of how much that twitter-in-love entrepeneur would have l=st if he did honestly follow his twitter-predictor during the fir=t week of this month? I guess I am still baffled about the "m=rket" for their product unless EFTA_R1_01425397 EFTA02395007 it's as you say, t=e market for the new, shiny toys - which is just about salesmanship, not science. Anyway, I'll drop it - I was just curious as w=y/how *any* of that social media stuff would work. I suppos= they will say that they have 300 M users, not *all* of them will be lyingi>=804e and one can sort the liars from the non-liars.... but s= what? best wishes bob On S=p 5, 2015, at 8:20 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.c=m» wrote: noam, as always , spending time . was great/ = first draft. of the Chomsky Challenge. =. Produce a non- living system that can be put into an environm=nt for a while and --- 1 . be able to d=scriminate language from noise.. prize=. a 1 dollar bill signed by Noam and 100k. . 2= be able to discriminate coherent sentences from no= ( we provide 10 test sentences ). prize a 10 doll=r signed Chomsky bill , and 500k. 3. a language lea=ning module. 20 dollar bill signed and 1 million, 4. a sense ma=ing module that can understand meaning inference. . etc. t=e non recommendation recommendation. . =/span>ie=span> the student has a nice family. etc. a 1=0 dollar signed bill and 10 million dollars. ? If your left=leaning , is in conflict with a money prize, we could </=pan>substitute ---your prize money goes to charity,-&n=sp; airline tickets to the Gaza strip. - Nicaragua, North Korea= . and 1000 blank ,protest placards ? or top prize includes&nbs=; 1000 protesters of your choice for three demonstrations :) please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be=attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is in=ended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE communication or any par= thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have receive= this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e=mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com <mailtoieevacation@gmail.com> , and destroy this communication and all co=ies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved 2 EFTA_R1_01425398 EFTA02395008