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From: Joscha Bach < Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 3:42 PM To: Jeffrey Epstein Subject: Re: Attachments: signature.asc Yes! =hen is good? On May 8, 2018, at 7:46 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: skype? wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2018 at =52 AM Joscha Bach < <mailto I =m still trying to understand your question. - What do you mean by genetic conflict =n a single individual? - What do you mean by =achine state? > > Perhaps you refer to a cybernetic regulation paradigm? =alentino Braitenberg suggested to understand Al from a regulation =erspective: feedback loops to approach a target state (homeostatic =quilibrium). The behavior regulation can be described with payoffs =cross many sub-behaviors (which Minsky called agents and agencies). =henever you get a situation where the local cost functions lead to a =ash equilibrium that is incompatible with the global goals of the =rganism, you introduce a higher level regulation that imposes offsets =n the payoff matrices of the lower level agents. This leads to the =ormation of an internal governance hierarchy. I =hink that this was the core idea of Rodney Brooks' subsumption =rchitecture. (Eventually, Brooks' work did not pan out, he =tarted building Roombas and lawn movers and became an Al =essimist.) On May 7, 2018, at 9:17 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: my question relate to the =etabphor of genetic conflict in a single indiv , is there =n equivalent . machine internal competition On =on, May 7, 2018 at 8:06 PM Joscha Bach < > wrote: I =hink that the whole game is internal. All our pleasure and pain are =aused by satisfying or frustrating our needs, which are (roughly =peaking) implemented in our reptilian brain. Our neocortex is modeling =hese needs as purposes, so we can regulate our behavior for satisfying =ur needs. EFTA_R1_01545491 EFTA02448111 For =xample, the physical pain, and hunger and thirst exist on the level of =eeds, and survival is a purpose, a kind of modeling abstraction, as are =ood and drink. Many of our purposes are outside of =he organism, such as relationship purposes, and social purposes. Even =ur aesthetic purposes (like Jeffrey enjoying an intellectual standoff =etween Bannon and Summers) are not really related to the =rganism. While =he needs are somewhat hardcoded, our reaction to them is not (we can =odulate pain and pleasure experiences, we can route our regulation =round satisfying our needs, and we can repurpose our needs for =ompetence, dominance, affiliation, and aesthetics for almost arbitrary =oals. By changing the regulation goals (which is always internal to our =ind) we change the payoff matrix. On May =, 2018, at 8:43 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: i =osit that thre is an internal game with its own payoff matrix = separate from the external . is =here a machine internal state equivalent. please note The information contained in this =ommunication is confidential, may be attorney-client =rivileged, may constitute inside information, and is =ntended only for the use of the addressee. It is the =roperty of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure =r copying of this communication or any part thereof is =trictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have =eceived this communication in error, please notify us =mmediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this =ommunication and all copies thereof, including all =ttachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this =ommunication is confidential, may be attorney-client =rivileged, may constitute inside information, and is =ntended only for the use of the addressee. It is the =roperty of JEE 2 EFTA_R1_01545492 EFTA02448112 Unauthorized use, disclosure =r copying of this communication or any part thereof is =trictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have =eceived this communication in error, please notify us =mmediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this =ommunication and all copies thereof, including all =ttachments. copyright -all rights reserved please =ote The information contained in this =ommunication is confidential, may be attorney-client =rivileged, may constitute inside information, and is =ntended only for the use of the addressee. It is the =roperty of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure =r copying of this communication or any part thereof is =trictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have =eceived this communication in error, please notify us =mmediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this =ommunication and all copies thereof, including all =ttachments. copyright -all rights reserved 3 EFTA_M_01545493 EFTA02448113