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From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 4:49 PM To: Bob Berwick Subject: Re: worse, danny kahnemans work woudl suggest=that positive sentiment is expressed once you are already the owner.=C240 not predictive of future, so that if you own china , you=speak highly of it. and then when they devalue everyone is cau=ht with their pants down. re the chomsky=challenge I will fund. and my only role is to stim=late conversation amongst you and your colleagues how best to stimul=te the science. On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Bob Berw=ck > wrote: Hah. All lineages go extin=t. One interesting thing that Steve Gould noted was that this takes about =he same time for all vertebrates.... For fads too. On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:16 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevac=tion@gmail.com> wrote: =br> it will " ev=lve" ::)) <berwick@cs=il.mit.edu wrote: Jeffrey So your view is that the socia= media jazz is a fad that will fizzle and fade fairly soon, no? =ob On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:00 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>=wrote: i will=spend all the time you like teaching you about investing and the markets.=C2* simpler than it appears.. = would like chomsky to follow in the footsteps of hibert, turi=g , and encourage work in their fiels by presenting goals to the dis=iples. =n Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Bob Berwick wrote: Hi Jeffrey, Ah very cool. EFTA_R1_01609656 EFTA02489271 box. there's no studies, means.=/div> *syntax* moving and 'inference'.=/div> problems you and much that twitter-predictor during their pro=uct unless salesmanship, not media stuff them will be lying... =/div> So let me try a few out. I guess it par=ly (! of course!) depends on how much we get to stick into the <=iv>I'm fine with prize money, mostly because as you know from Marv=n, way to get funding for "real•=9D problems like these or those that Marvin nsf & d=rpa and toyota (as you just saw) only care about self-driving cars. <=iv>So I'd be overjoyed to get some way to fund new students.=A6. Challenge 1. Discriminating lang=age from noise. This is doable. Partha Niyogi nearly did i=. A six-month effort. Challenge 2.4>=A0 Ah, depends on the sentences and what 'coherent' Does Noam mean 'screwed up in some way'? W='re not so far from that. Further than 1. That sys=em I showed you that can isolate difft factors in as a =mall set of constraints can do some of that. Recall Shimon Ullma='s 'rigidity principle' about the interpretation o= points in the visual field - same coherence idea. <=iv> Challenges 3 and 4 are much harder, we'd have to=know more about 'meaning' I wouldn't be happy with statistical curve fitting here.=/div> Finally - though I will drop this, because your t=me is too valuable and the Noam pose are the im=ortant ones, to me — what was your estimate of how =div>twitter-in-love entrepeneur would have lost if he did honestly follow =is the first week of this month? = guess I am still baffled about the "market" for it's as you say, the market for the new, shin= toys - which is just about science. Any=ay, I'll drop it - I was just curious as why/how 'any' of that soc=al would work. I suppose they will say that th=y have 300 M users, not 'all' of and=one can sort the liars from the non-liars....but so what? =br> best wishes bob On Sep 5, 2015, at 8=20 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com» wrote: 2 EFTA_R1_01609657 EFTA02489272 noam, as always , spending time . was great/ 4>=A0 first draft. of the Chomsky Challenge. .=C240 Produce a non- living system that can be put into an environme=t for a while and --- 1 . be able to d=scriminate language from noise.. priz= . a 1 dollar bill signed by Noam and 100k. ...AO 2. be able to discriminate coherent sentences f=om non ( we provide 10 test sentences ). prize a =0 dollar signed Chomsky bill , and 500k. 3. a lang=age learning module. 20 dollar bill signed and 1 million, 4. a=sense making module that can understand meaning inference. . etc.40=A0 the non recommendation recommendation. .=C24)ie the student has a nice family= etc. a 100 dollar signed bill and 10 million dollars. ?=--- If your left leaning , is in conflict with a money prize, we co=ld substitute </=pan>---your prize =money goes to charity,- airline tickets to the Gaz= strip. - Nicaragua, North Korea, . and 1000 blank ,protest placards ?4>=A0 or top prize includes 1000 protesters of your choice =or three demonstrations :) pl=ase note The information contained in this communication is con=idential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside info=mation, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. 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