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From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:52 AM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: Re: 1.1 will wait on valeria. we can craft a fun fe= days 2, try this on but only if you get a moment =AO , i know you are busy it appear to me that ""language=quot; can be defined as the biological organizing principle that creates a shape space. &q=ot;coherent sentences " are defined as those that fit on the shape. The projections o= the sensory motors, allows communication. . There are an inf=nite digital number of sentences.that do fit on the shape , but orders of magnitude =AO more, that do not fit.- to attempt a naive representation, =AO imagine a hemisphere, ( symmetric), any continuous line drawn on it= surface , is a sentence. there are infinite numbers of lines that can be =rawn. however , trying to connect two points , directly without traversing the hemishpere is also infinitely possible but mos= solutions need to leave the surface. The principle that organiz=s the shape is NOT an input device. one can map inputs onto the=shape but it is not THE shape , ex, a hemisphere bowl in 3 space,=analogy, one can put marbles in the bowl and they will map a path to the bottom. but the shape of the bowl . determines how fast they move, an= in which direction, . the shape of the bowl is the language. =AO there is a shape for vision as well. . it exists without input,=C2 certain paths are more probable etc. 3. I will contact Yang clear="all"> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Noam Chomsky > wrote: Valeria's not here right now,=so will have to check with her about late September. Really intrigui=g possibilities, and a delightful offer. On Yang, I read his work quite differ=ntly. He does make use of word frequencies and probability distribut=ons, but as far as I am aware in pretty straightforward and innocuous ways. And he's quite sophisticated about these=matters. Smart and interesting guy. You might want to contact him di=ectly. I don't recall his using Zipf=E2 s "laws," but it wouldn't matter much. =AO Mandelbrot showed back in the '50s that they were a statistical=artifact, near meaningless. I was, incidentally, surprised to see how he dealt with this result in his=autobiography. I think he called it his "Keplerian moment,=E2 or something like that. Noam EFTA_R1_01622806 EFTA02497741 From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com) Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:10 PM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: Re: I think you might try to plan on late september, ta=ing my apt and spending a few days with valeria in the city, A= it is the openiing of the UN general assembly , as well as th= Clinton global initiative New york is rife with people with at least influence, if not new ideas. . I, we. can organ=ze many fun interactions. my house becomes a respite for the s=lect few, to take off their ties, and talk openly. You =ould be welcome to join as many create or participate as you prefer.=C2 yangs work deals with language as signals . his reliance on Zi=f like distributions is a good example of naive probablities.. =AO empirically zipf appears. but cannot be derived from any of his or anyo=es elses to date. so somewhat misleading to suggest the" probililty of word , x appearing, " it is=the mistake of frequency vs probablity, and careless common usage. On Sat Jun 20 2015 at 11:44 AM Noam Chomsky < wrote: Sounds like a most interesting person= And someone it would be very interesting to talk to. I presum= he spends time in NY. Hope we can work it out. Would be interested in learning more =bout your critique of the use of probability in language work, mostly by computational cognitive scientists, as far as I know. I =80 ve written critiques of it too, but on different grounds: failure to =ccount for what they are trying to show, or even to understand the issue.=C2 There are, I think, some notable exceptions, like the recent work of Charles Yang, one of Bob Berwick's student=. From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.comj Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 8:22 AM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: He is the head of the human rights court in strasbou=g. / former prime minister of norway. . . He=would be happy to have a dinner with us. . subj. =C2 drones. solitary confinement , death penalty ( europe does not have one , so if killing terrorist= is to be under an act of war, argument, then they, as enemies ,hav= war rights. ). tribalism, mafia, syria, ukraine, saudi, egypt. =AO libya, . We have a great friendship. - I give him his financial ABC's class. he gives me my pragmatic =olitics lessons. fyi great similarity now as the old political=guard seem toreflect the patterns of the old long term=C2 investors, ( skills of . planning. executing . =AO etc ) now confronted by media . and pressured to make quick decisions. ie behaving =AO like inexperienced short term traders. fyi I h=ve read a great number of language papers. many if not most, m=suse the concept of probability . making naive, erroneous uses of th= 2 EFTA_R1_01622807 EFTA02497742 word , hence forming nonsensical conclusions. ( like the silly, life on =ther planets " calculation". probability needs repetition =nd symmetry, historical events do not have either I )<=p> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Noam Chomsky wrote: Glad it worked. Hope that the s=eech was of some interest. From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.comj Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:38 PM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: you would have been proud my friend the sec ge= of the council of europe thjorborn jagland had to give as spe=ch on terrosism to the security counsel. Last night I presented your arguments, re hypocrisy, he was shocked but loved 1.. please no=e The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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