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From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:05 PM To: Joichi Ito Subject: Re: Resisting Reduction biology is a good example ( like usual ) . =AO you no little about your digestion system, circulatoy system, immune sy=tem. . cant control any one of them closely, =C2 and sometimes say ? holy shit why did i do that .=C2 example of unknown/ computer can=model. , but it includes a random generator so it cant predict= . poincare three body , also kn=wing is a scalor.. you can know the position of your desk , b=t when you look either closely , atoms or from afar. =AO relation to the sun. all knowling fallsaway =/div> On Sat, Oct=28, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Joichi Ito wrote:<=r> True... but the main beef that I ha=e with Danny is that he thinks that the world is Turning "knowable=E2 - that a computer can simulate everything. I realize that simulat=on doesn't mean you can predict it, but he believes that there is = finite set of things going on and that there is a limit to the complexity= I guess there is more nuance to "knowability" and what th=t really means with respect to control. I should probably think about it m=re and figure out a structure to explain it. Do you know any field that do=s this well? Joi (Tip: Use NRR to mean No Reply Required - thank you!) > On Oct 28, 2017, at 5:46 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacat=on@gmail.com> wrote: > i think my main difference would be the word "knowable.&quo=; I beleive the guys that program neural nets.in <http://ne=s.in> fact DO=T know how or even why they work and that is at the core of their an=iety. If it is out of their control. danger lurks=around the corner. we have seem mamy people get behind the whe=l of a very fast car.. not understanding at all the workings of the gears=or the engine. . they crash as they don t take the time =o learn to control the machine. the extension of that is the =ingularity > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Joichi Ito rote: > Just published this. Please let me know what you think when you get a =hance. > https://pubpub.ito.com/pub/resisting-reduct=on/ <https://pubpub.ito.com/pub/resisting-reduction/> please note > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may > constitute inside information, and is intended only for > the use of the addressee. It is the property of > JEE > Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this > communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited EFTA_R1_01745452 EFTA02574533 > and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by > return e-mail or by e-mail to <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> , and > destroy this communication and all copies thereof, > including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved =AO please note The information contained i= this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged,=may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use =f the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclos=re or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly pro=ibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication =n error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to =a href="mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeevacation ®gmai=.com, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, inc=uding all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved --001a1140ee4064dc33055c9b0dbd-- conversation-id 25743 date-last-viewed 0 date-received 1509195897 flags 8590195713 gmail-label-ids 7 remote-id 763114 2 EFTA_R1_01745453 EFTA02574534