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From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:30 PM To: Lawrence Krauss Subject: Re: Hello--CONFIDENTIAL 1 i think the concilation commitee makes the decisio=. if you can reopen then isnt it better to keep am=er heard to yourself incase you lose than you can say new info? <=div> On Wed, Aug =2, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Lawrence Krauss =wrote: This is the only chance I get to have the p=esident review this case.. He needs to see that a large part of the =ubstance of it is incorrect. . Moreover, since complainants are allowed to=have the case reopened as many times as they wish after a determination is=made if they claim to have new evidence or disagree with its findings, a r=fusal to consider this evidence as part of my appeal is further grounds fo= discrimination. I twitter.com/Ikraussl <https://urldef=nse.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- 3A_twitter.com_lkrauss1&d=DQMFAg=amp;c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQiaqWc=OihHC0LZCntZCR8Xtq5BHKNVR5To&m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9I5Up33Th7MWHYf6uw7=U BPZc&s=mspp05BZaPjp5BOPRbD2xXlzHCi4LgzTZBKNgjNBBKg&e=> I w <https://urldef=nse.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- 3A krauss.faculty.asu.edu_&d=DQM=Ag&c=AGbYxfibXK67KfXyGgyv2Ejiz41FgQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQia=WcFOihHC0L2Cnt2CR8Xtg5BHKNVR5To&m=ciP97mEbO4349613_Nf9I5Up33Th7MWHYf6=w7yU BPZc&s=f7W9C_XvplQaEIpZ3o8vIh0dM_e0hTXbMIVPaUviEtS&e=> ww.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.la=rencemkrauss.com> =u> </=iv> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:18 PM, jeffre= E. <jeevaca=ion@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> > wrote: I think you might want to make i= part of the concillaiton process. not to allow once again , t=em to get ahead of you. they ask others re amber . lette=s. etc. you need to remember this will be pu=lished. lull victim shaming not seen to be the done thing4=A0 think if you were writing a two page piece for the ti=es. then add the rest. On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Lawrenc= Krauss <mailto > wrote: EFTA_R1_01797439 EFTA02606381 I agree with you regarding compromise. This is an appeal letter t= the president. It is to explain to him with the proposed disciplinary act=on is not warranted. Letters that were not solicited by the 00 but =hould have been seem fair game in this regard. Lawrence M. Krauss 4=pan>Professor School =f Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State Un=versity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Offic=: I Assistant (Jessica)- twitter.com/Ikrauss1<=span> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp- 3A twitter.com_Ikraussi&d= DQM FAg&c=AGbYxf1bXK67KfXyGgy=2Ejiz41 FqQuZ Fk4A- llxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQiaqWcFOi h HC0LZCntZCR8Xtq5BH KNVR5T=&m=ci P97m EbO4349G8_Nf9I 5U p33Th7MWHYf6uw7yU BPZc&s=mspp0SBZaPjp5=OPRbD2xXlzHCi4LgzTZ8KNgjNBBKg&e=> j=span style="font-size:9ptcolor:rgb(68,114,196)"> w <https://urIdefense.proofpoint.com/v2/urI?u=3Dhttp- 3A_krauss.facuIty.asu.edu_&d=DQMFAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXy=qyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1lxfAU&r=.DB9LvLOlQiaqWcFOihHC0LZCntZCR8Xtq5BHKNV.=5To&m.=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9I5Up33Th7MWHYf6uw7yU BPZc&s=f7W9C_Xvpl=aElpZ3o8vIh0dM_e0hTXbMIVPaUviEt8&e=> ww.lawrencemkrauss.com chttp://ww.lawrencemkrauss.com/> =/div> =/div> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:13 PM, jeffre= E. <jeevaca=ion@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: is there a=y -precedent in an appeal letter to add letters of support? i =hink it is a legal appeal not an appeal to ones emotions . 40=A0 it is legal grounds or not. you can attack the =redibility of witnesses but you have been found to be not credible. =C240 and with a multi year behavior issue however did you bre=k a rule??? I dont think you should suggest a comp=omise in an appeal letter. . you can make refernce to not wanting a =ong drawn out court battle. a bit threatening, but not p=ay your hand On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Lawrence Krauss <mailto > > wrote: This is highly confident=al of course, but it is good news, and I will use it in the appeal doc, wh=ch I am HEAVILY revising today. I am also going to send you another =upport letter that is quite important in a minute. <=iv style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"> Lawrence M.=Krauss 2 EFTA_R1_01797440 EFTA02606382 Professor </=> School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Ari=ona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 R=search Office: I Assistant (Jessica): AO <1=> I twitter.cogIkraussl <https://urIdefense.proofpoint.c=m/v2/url?u=http- 3A_twitter.com_lkrauss1&d=DQMFAg&c=AGbYxfJb=K67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOlQiaqWcFOihHC0LZCntZCR8X=q5BHKNVR5To&m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9I5Up33Th7MWHYf6uw7yU BPZc&s=ms=p0SBZaPjp5BOPRbD2xXlzHCi4LgifZ8KNgjNBBKg&e=> I w <https://urldefense.proof poi nt.co=h2/url ?u=http- 3A_krauss.faculty.asu.edu_&d=DQM FAg&c=AGbYxf=bXK67KfXyGgyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- llxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQiaqWcFOi h HC0LZCntZCR=XtqSBH KNVRSTo&m =ci P97mEbO4349G8_Nf9I5Up33Th7MWHYf6uw7yU BPZc&s==7W9C_XvplQaElpZ3o8vIh0dM_e0hTXbMIVPaUviEt8&e=> Date: <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.com/= target=> August 22, 2018 at 1:23:08 PM PDT </=pan> To: Lawrence K=auss > Tha=ks for forwarding me the content of the investigative report by ASU relate= to me and my participation, along with Johnny, at Origins events. =C24)I am attaching what you sent to me so that I may comment on it.: <=div> <=div> <=div> "Four Witnesses reported during the investigation =hat Respondent once made a comment in the presence of employees about the =hysical characteristics of Amber Heard, an actress and female visitor at O=igins Project event. Specifically, during the Johnny Depp event on Februar= 16, 2016, that Respondent, while getting everyone together to take a pict=re with Johnny Depp, said, "get your hot ass over here" wh=n attempting to get Amber to join the picture. During this same event, two=witnesses allege that Respondent told Heard, "Your ass looks great=" Employees also indicate that he talked about how "hot sh= was". When asked if he ever c=mmented on a female's buttocks in front of employees, Respondent s=ated, "Whoa, not that I...I can't imagine doing that=E200. Respondent stated, "Generally, I would say that is not a=good idea" but added that if someone asked his opinion about someo=e, he might respond. When asked if he ever made comments about Amber Heard=E200s body, Respondent stated, "No. Amber Heard is an incredib=y attractive woman, and everybody understands that and everybody said it, =nd she is". Respondent stated that he did not remember telling Heard=that her "ass" looked good. He stated, "I don0=800t remember saying it, but it's the kind of thing that a close=friend would say to a close friend in the context of [asking for wardrobe =dvicej, but I certainly don't remember it, but we were very, very =lose." Respondent stated that making such comments in the workplac= would be outside of normal conduct for him, but "if it would0=804eve happened, it would have not been at the Origins offices. It would =ave been in the middle of an event when we were celebrating".4)=A0 Factua= Determination: Four witnesses heard Respondent make the statement. Althou=h Respondent stated he did not remember saying this, he did acknowledge th=t it is the kind of thing that a close friend would say. It is more likely=than not that Respondent made the statements. " 3 EFTA_R1_01797441 EFTA02606383 Hey Lawrence. I'm glad to hea= from you although, of course, I am saddened that it is under these c=rcumstances. =span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font- =ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;=ext-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white- space:normal;word-spacing:0px;bac=ground-color:rgb(255,255,255);text- decoration:none;float:none;display:inlirelimportant">Here is my response, which you may forward to the University =f you wish: I do not recall this or any incident between us as being inappropri=te. I also feel deeply for anyone who feels as though they have been the s=bject of any unwanted attention in this way, so I hope this can provide an= clarity on your situation. =/div> Lawrence Krauss was a close friend, and as I recall h=s behavior towards me was gracious and kind during our visits to the Origi=s Project. I don't recall any such comments by him backstage=at the Origins event, and more generally remember no inappropriate comment= toward me at any time, either in public or backstage during the events, o= at our home or elsewhere, and we left all of our interactions with both h=m, and his Origins staff, feeling very well treated. The Origins events we=e a highlight for me. I hope this lays this issue to rest. =C2* Due to the public nature of my life and the uniquely public circumstances=surrounding aspects of my marriage and divorce to my ex-husband (who parti=ipated in the Origins event mentioned above), I request that this statemen= be used internally by the university only. Thank you. Best regards Amber Heard. <=div> please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may b= attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is =ntended only for the use of the addressee. 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