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From: on behalf of Ben Goertzel Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 5:09 PM To: jeffrey E. Subject: Re: Attachments: Goertzel_Harrigan_Bach_Black_Foundation_Proposal_2014.pdf BTW to ease your potential re-reading, here is a re-send of the proposal Joscha and I made for you last year ;) --ben On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:01 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: > yes IU would like to be put in touch, yes i will re read . gino is still > an unlknown > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: » Hi Jeffrey, » Good to hear from you! » BTW -- We have not yet been able to install our software on your » Virgin Islands server as requested, because the sys-admin there, » Jermaine, has not yet opened a port in the router there to let us » access the machine remotely. I wonder if he doesn't know how to do » that? (but it's a very basic thing...).... Anyhow we have emailed » and asked him to do this several times... » I like the idea of a machine that can ask questions...! Actually the » logic of questions is dual to the logic of answers, see » http://www.gatsby.uclac.uk/aistats/fullpapers/246.pdf » Making OpenCog ask questions to fill in gaps in its knowledge is one » of our current priorities, in fact.... » I'm glad to hear you have decided to fund Joscha for another year. » He is really enjoying his time in Boston and getting a lot out of the » various contacts he's making there. I wonder if you'd like to » reconsider funding the proposal Joscha and I sent you some months ago, » for work on intelligent/simply-conscious virtual animals? Or did » that happen not to float your boat? We have discussed many other » possibilities for collaboration, e.g. application of OpenCog » +MicroPsi to mathematical theorem-proving (via grounding mathematics » in embodied experience, along the lines that Lakoff and Nunez » discussed in "Where Mathematics Comes From") » Gino Yu told me he met you recently. He's a fun guy who helped me » get started here in Hong Kong. His wife's family is very wealthy and EFTA_R1_02178401 EFTA02719812 » influential here (though his wife, while head of the Hong Kong » Chamber of Commerce, got busted for insider trading and spent 1.5 » years in jail here... really a bummer for Gino's kids... but anyway » she's been out a while now and is back in business...) >> » As for Rupert Sheldrake, yes I know him.... He's not a super-close » friend but I visited his house in London in 2012, and have emailed » with him a few times since then. Also he had a paper in a book on » psi that I co-edited last year, see » http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Psi-Thirteen-Empirical-Research/dp/078 » 6478284 » or see » http://goertzel.org/Evidence_for_Psi_PREPRINT.pdf >> » for a free digital copy ... the password is » dataWillPrevail » Rupert has found various private funders for his experiments in the » past, but I'm sure he would be happy to have more funding for more » experiments. » If you're in an especially open-minded mood, you might enjoy my » speculative thoughts on a potential physics foundation for Rupert's » morphic field idea, see » http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.hk/2014/09/morphic-fields-me » mory-psi-unified.html » Shall I put you in touch with Rupert by email? » I would be interested to try to figure out an experiment that would » probe the quantitative nature and "laws" of putative morphic fields » more precisely. I think his idea is deep and fascinating, yet too » slippery for my taste.... His email and telephone telepathy » experiments are fascinating and I think could be developed to give » further information. For instance, he finds that this sort of » telepathy typically takes places between members of groups who share » social or emotional bonds. So, I wonder if this could be quantified. » If we measure social and emotional bonds using psychosocial survey » instruments, can we then use this information to probabilistically » predict the degree of email or telephone telepathy? This could tell » us something about the information-theoretic nature of the patterns 2 EFTA_R1_02178402 EFTA02719813 » that "morphic fields" (whatever they really are) pay attention to.... » Of course, he may have even better ideas for new experiments.... » Yours, » Ben » On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:47 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: >» hi, I have begun funding some Al to the minus one. . answers are >» not as interesting as great questions. i want a machine that can >» ask quesitons.? >» In my scouting I saw you supported rupert sheldrakes right to speak. » > have >» you met him. Id like to fund something . if controls adequate » > » > -- » > please note >» The information contained in this communication is confidential, >» may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside >» information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It >» is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of >» this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and >» may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, >» please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to >» jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this communication and all >» copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights >» reserved » -- » Ben Goertzel, PhD » http://goertzel.org » "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one » persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all » progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw > -- > please note > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may > be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and > is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of 3 EFTA_R1_02178403 EFTA02719814 > JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or > any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you > have received this communication in error, please notify us > immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, > and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all > attachments. copyright -all rights reserved Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw 4 EFTA_R1_02178404 EFTA02719815