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OFFWOU. Rummy
ti ff n .j
.....
Date of entry
03/31/2020
DOB S
was interviewed at One Saint Andrews
Plaza, New York, New York. Present for the interview was AUSA
AUSA
AUSA
Detective
and
Special Agent
After being advised of the identities of the
above listed individuals and the nature of the interview,IIIII[rovided the
following information:
Illilwas born in
siblings
Sweden. In approximately 1984,
Sweden and grew up with
siblings,
along wit
an711.
has Molder
orothers who live in
his parents, and siblings moved to Los
for a year, then moved back to Sweden for
first grade year.
In approximately 1988, MIattended
grade at the PALM BEACH SCHOOL OF
THE ARTS in Palm Beach, Florida. In
senior year, the school's name
chap ed to DREYFOOS SCHOOL OF THE ARTS.
graduated high school in 1998.
nd
also attended.
went to JUILLIARD.
lived
in Florida for approximately eleven years before moving to New Yo rk
for
college, where he attended
semesters at the Manhattan School of
Music. He attended college from approximately October
tillIIII In
approximately
ULF moved to Los
and has lived there for
approximately 20 years, where he has pursued acting, music, voice over
acting, photography, real estate, and notary.
11 attended INTERLOCHEN in approximately 1994,
1995, and 1996. In 1997,
ttended BOSTON TANGLEWOOD
INSTITUTE, butlillikas not sure if
=lso attended. Their father
died in 19111, and in the summer of
a
ERLOCHEN was wheillillifirst
started talking about a man (JEFFREY EPSTEIN) for whom she had a sense of
admiration. EPSTEIN focused on their father, saying he knew their dad and
admired him. EPSTEIN approached
at the picnic tables.
told ■
the day of or shortly after she met EPSTEIN. could
have been 14 years
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old when she met EPSTEIN. 'lipid not recall if
referred to him as
"JEFFREY" or "JEFFREY EPSTEIN". It became clear that EPSTEIN lived in Palm
Beach, which was a "cool coincidence".
did not recall the first time
he met EPSTEIN. The first memory III had of meeting EPSTEIN was in Okee
Square/Okee Boulevard at a movie theater.
met EPSTEIN, and
and
GHISLAINE MAXWELL were also present.
assumed that MAXWELL was
EPSTEIN's girlfriend/partner.
did not remember if that was the first
time he met EPSTEIN, but did recall that it was the first time that he met
MAXWELL. When
met MAXWELL, he was approximately 16 years old, while
W
as 15 years old. ■
did not recall meeting EPSTEIN while at
INTERLOCHEN, so assumed he met EPSTEIN for the first time in Palm Beach.
=assumed
EPSTEIN just started hanging out with
'r
she was going to
his house.
The second or third year at INTERLOCHEN, Eland his brother, friends,
and mom stayed at EPSTEIN's cabin at INTERLOCHEN. EPSTEIN was not there
when they stayed. EPSTEIN communicated to
that they could stay there.
told
that MAXWELL had told her, "Oh I would teach your brother
a thing or two".
EPSTEIN was a "godfather figure" and wanted to help
EPSTEIN
wanted to do a lot of nice things because he admired their father.
heard this from _and
their mother.
reported that it never felt
weird, but now looking back it does.
recalled that
was
EPSTEIN's home days/weeks/months afterfirst meeting EPSTEIN.
it was pretty soon after camp.
felt that ed
gone over in the day
time. Mid
not think
ad stayed the night at EPSTEIN's home, but
she could have. EPSTEIN sent a driver, who Illidescribed as a very nice
Latin man.
nly remembered EPSTEIN's driver bec use he was very
friendly.
ey talked about Latin music together.
could not recall his
name.
going to
felt that
Whenflnd
his family had moved to another house in approximately
1995/1996, he recalled answering the phone and EPSTEIN was on the other
line.
mother always told them to be polite. EPSTEIN was always curt
and to the point saying something like, "Can I speak tillilliplease?". ■
spoke to EPSTEIN on the phone a handful of times and it was always the
same.
did not remember if he talked with MAXWELL on the phone.
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Wher
met EPSTEIN in person, EPSTEIN seemed weird; EPSTEIN
sweatpants and seemed like a homeless person. bad
told
point that she remembered EPSTEIN having dinne
ir home;
remember this but thought it would have made sense because their
people over all the time.
M
I ent to New York City in approximately 1997/1998 for her senior
year of high school. Before she left for her senior year, Lold
about EPSTEIN's house.
would have been a junior when she told him
this.
did not know w o made travel arrangements for
did not
know if they were commercial or private.IIIIIIIrecalled t
was in a
pageant in approximately 1996/1997 in which EPSTEIN helpe
er.
has
spoken to his sisters over the ears about it.
recalled
sisters said she went with
o buy a dress
the pageant.
New York City house had seven stories;
felt that MAXWELL always traveled with
MAXWELL a lot. nouldicito
events and places with EPSTEIN and
MAXWELL;
talked with
about it.
I F
■
remembered that
him that s e met DONALD TRUMP at MAR-A-LAGO in approximately 1
told
bout this meeting at the time it happened.
met EPSTEIN and MAXWELL a couple times.
years ago seeing EPSTEIN's face in the media.
believed that he had met EPSTEIN more than once.
was in
t some
did not
mother had
one
is
EPSTEIN's
talked about the house.
and EPSTEIN.
mentioned
elt
ad told
6.
that he
remembered approximately 10
recognized him so he
In approximately 1997/1998.
mother told him to write music for
EPSTEIN's birthday.
'pent six ours writing music, titled "Fanfare for
Jeffrey".
EPSTEIN purchasedillilland his family a computer that was delivered to
their home by his driver.
hought this happened shortly after
INTERLOCHEN.
thought it was used before EPSTEIN gave it to them. This
is the only thing
emembered receiving from EPSTEIN. Illikeemed to
think that there was no doubt
that
received gifts from EPSTEIN;
thought this made sense that EPSTEIN would do this. IIII[ad no specific
memory of
eceiving a gift.
that she had been to
EPSTEIN's ew exico ranch.
has had conversations witilliiiiipver the years where
told him
that EPSTEIN gave erge
amounts of cash.
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When III"as auditioning for colleges in New York City, he stayed in an
apartment in Manhattan owned by EPSTEIN for a couple of days.
did not
able to stay at EPSTEIN's apartment. There was a friendly
thought may have given him a key; Illirhought the doorman
that he was friends with EPSTEIN. While in the apartment,
a girl walked in and introduced herself as
id not know
was staying there.
vas 19 years o
ho was 23
walked in, she told him that she worked for EPSTEIN.
years old. Whe
had not seen
her in London in
about EPSTEIN.
November
in over a decade when she reached out.
saw
2019.
hat they needed to talk
was surprised it took him so long
to ask about EPSTEIN.
if she knew, and
told him
no.
that this situation has ruined her life and that
had written a book with
in it.
w en s e sal t at she did not know the extent of what EPSTEIN was doing.
was paid to work for EPSTEIN; she was basically a slave.
et
BILL CLINTON with MAXWELL present. CLINTON asked
"What O you
do?". MAXWELL told CLINTON that11111'1[as her slave.
told
that
she knew nothing about what has been reported about EPSTEIN.
a wanted
to talk to
ecause he knew she had worked for EPSTEIN
guyed
that
had to have known something. Throughout
riendship over
the years with
they never talked about EPSTE
an
XWELL.
tol
hat s e was MAXWELL's assistant and described herself as MAXWELL's
slave.
lid
EPSTEIN's other properties.
EPSTEIN's Palm Beach house.
not exchange emails with EPSTEIN, nor has he been to any of
recently that she had been to
felt that his mother had been to EPSTEIN's
Palm Beach house but was not sure.
When
saw the news reports, he thought that there was no way something
had not happened to
for lunch and told
told him that she had taken
out
hat she knew something had happened to her,
telling her that she new she was raped. At first,
denied it to
then she broke down.
Approximately 10 years ago when the investigation of EPSTEIN first came
in the news,
subtly mentioned what happened to her. IIIIII[ever
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overtly told
never asked. There was a lot that was implied.
ULF thought that he had asked her if she was ok, and
replied, "How do
you think I feel; I was raped by a pedophile for years".
as opened
up more in recent years.
When
and his mother lived in
in California, The Daily
Mail showed up at their home.
eard the conversation between the
reporter and his mother; his mother was trying to protect
saying that
nothing happened with
herself.
IIIIIIHother was also trying to protect
In the early 2000's, when
lived wit
in
a massage
therapist came to give him a massage. This masseuse worked for EPSTEIN.
EPSTEIN was still very much in
at this time.
did not remember if he had talked with
n person or over the
phone when the investigation all came out.
did text
when EPSTEIN
died, telling her that EPSTEIN was now out of her life.
then realized
that was not true, that things were just beginning.
s very resentful towards their mother.
id not know how
their mother could not have known because she came home with so much cash.
Their mother said that she had asked
lways said nothing
happened.
Whenillilland his family lived in New York City at
Street,
told him that EPSTEIN co-signed for their lease. Their mother said that this
was not true; her boyfriend did. When the sublet the apartment, the person
did not pay the rent and EPSTEIN contacted i
nd told her that she
needed to take care of it.
said that EPSTEIN paid for INTERLOCHEN. Their mother said her
boyfriend paid.
Early on
had respect for EPSTEIN; she loved how smart he was.
EPSTEIN said things like, "An ozone repairs itself before a man could
ruin". lid
not know what the turning point was for
would say that it was the lunch she had with
lillig
at was her turning
point.
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The news outlets were blackmailing
saying that she needed to give
an interview or they would write whatever t ey wanted. El thought that she
may have paid an attorney to make the media go away.
recalled seeing a
that ha
hoto on it but
saying that a woman named
was rapel
expressed that she did not want this to ruin her life. ■told
t he would support her in whatever she decided. This conversation
happened approximately six months prior to this interview.
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