Subject: Conference Call with Roy Black

From: To: Cc: Bcc: Subject: Conference Call with Roy Black Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:49:42 +0000 Importance: Normal and I had a good conversation with Roy. Roy said that he had passed along our words of warning from the last conversation to everyone on the Epstein team and that they understood that they need to keep in touch with the government to avoid running afoul of the agreement. Roy said that “Tein is just a bulldog on the civil cases." I said that Judge Marra's ruling seems to taken care of that specific issue. I then re-raised the issue of work release and he said that he told everyone on the defense that we have a deal and we need to stick with the deal. Roy reminded the team that he and Jack had spoken repeatedly with and I about the prison term and that it is clear that 18 months IN JAIL is a material term of the agreement. As Roy put it, he told them that if they try to get around the 18 month term, "= will have a nervous breakdown and drop a nuclear bomb."