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From: Misha Gromov < =,• To: "jeffrey E.." leevacation@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 21:01:07 +0000 A difference between direct perception in hearing and vision is that similarity between objects O and O' is defined by "morphology" i.e by the internal arrangement of sub-units in O and O' In language similarity between words e.g. cow and ox can not be recovered this way On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:52:31 -0500, jeffrey E. wrote: no need to know. it works. it takes input and makes a coherent story. ( image ). it is bounded by frequency.. so is sound . why shoudnt the same algorithm (used loosely ) , form concepts into understandings. not sure if the idea is bad or merely my explantion of it On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Misha Gromov c wrote: I am not certain we know the much about the higher level vision processing in the brain, but this is where the processing of the language begins On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:46:30 -0500, jeffrey E. wrote: i dont think many algorithms should be part of the brain. I believe that turning input into a coherent shape is similar in vision hearing and thought. we know more about vision. edges verticals horiz etc. why not the same for concepts. ideas. . the image i see must be decoded into a whole . the concepts i imagine need the same program. first black one white, shapes , etc. for vision. as the feedback loop develops. things come into focus. . same with thoughts. . I at still perplexed by how little control we have over the thing we call " I " / it does most things , it wants , it reacts without "I " input. the signal for repair is not under control , cuts breaks stings. all done by the magician with no way to override it. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Misha Gromov c wrote: Probably, I have o think more, but once you start thinking about how you think you never accept what everybody els{ think about how you think. On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 12:50:01 -0500, jeffrey E. wrote: see, ? perceive? understand? illusion? all but i like the recursive shape space more and more. with closer iteration what it means to understand. . my model is comprised of a set function that after recursion comes closer to coheren but also depends on the subects algorithm. its very nice. EFTA00939578 On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Misha Gromov a wrote: And there is a secret what you see with both eyes open On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:29:40 -0500, jeffrey E. wrote: and stops only one tongue On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Misha Gromov a wrote: political correctness blinds only one eye On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:23:17 -0500, jeffrey E. wrote: I think he is great friends of Ariely. both politcally correct. so their work is blather. they do not explore race. age in their statistic usualy so garbage in garbge out . On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Misha Gromov a> wrote: BTHW, I am going tonight to Princeton for a lecture by Mariano Sigman -- do you know him? I also I will will meet a Russian/American biologist-pharmacologists who's fed 1000 drugs to 15 000 mice, On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:08:31 -0500, jeffrey E. wrote: it doesnt. it only does in one dimension On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Misha Gromov a wrote: I am not certain that "well ordering" fits here On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 08:57:22 -0500, jeffrey E. wrote: to say I understand something the contexts are the dimensions and the recursive process allows yoi close in each dimension building up the obejct. . almost like a camera focusing its lens , except they images they are concepts , please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of EFTA00939579 JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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