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Hawking Evaporation is Inconsistent with an Event Horizon at r = 2M Boron D. Chowdhury' and Lawrence M. Krauss" 'Department of Physics, Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ 85287 and 'School of Earth and Space Exploration, Arizona Stale University, Tempe, AZ 85287, USA, and Mount Stromlo Observatory, Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Australian National University, Weston, ACT, Australia, 2611 (Dated: August 28, 2014) A simple classical consideration of black hole formation and evaporation times as measured by an observer at infinity demonstrates that an infall cutoff outside the event horizon of a black hole must be imposed in order for the formation time of a black hole event horizon to not exceed its evaporation time. We explore this paradox quantitatively and examine possible cutoff scales and their relation to the Planck scale. Our analysis suggests two different possibilities, neither of which can be resolved classically and both of which require new physics associated with even large black holes and macroscopic event horizons: either an event horizon never forms, for example due to radiation during collapse (resolving the information loss problem), or quantum effects may affect space-time near an event horizon in ways which alter infall as well as black hole evaporation itself. I. INTRODUCTION Evaporating black holes present a number of paradoxes that have motivated a great deal of work in classical and quantum gravity over the past 30 years. Most notable, as pointed out by Hawking, black hole radiance appears to be in conflict with unitarity, as pure states appear to evolve into mixed states, implying an information loss paradox that has yet to be fully resolved. Several ideas have been proposed. from the possibility that all the in- formation stored in a black hole is accessible at its hori- zon Il, 2), to the possibility that black hole event horizons do not form [3-5). There is, however, a classical black hole paradox which is less often recognized. Because of the infinite redshift factor at r = 2M, infalling objects appear to take an infinite time to cross the event horizon as observed by a distant observer, whereas the same observer will measure the lifetime of the black hole against evaporation given by the standard relation r ...v. M3 for a black hole of mass M. This implies that a black hole would be observed by a distant observer to evaporate before it forms. Here we explore this paradox in more detail and deter- mine conditions on infall that might allow causality to be preserved in the process of black hole evaporation. Our argument relies purely on classical general relativity con- siderations and hence is not subject to the many vagaries of interpretation often associated with considerations of quantum effects and gravity. We conclude with a brief discussion of possible impli- cations of our analysis, all which would appear to require quantum effects to be significant even for the horizons around large black holes, where one would think that classical CH should be sufficient to describe space-time and associated phenomena in the vicinity of the event horizon. II. INFALL AND OBSERVATION TIMES FOR A TEST PARTICLE NEAR THE EVENT HORIZON Consider a massive particle starting from rest at the location 2. = R 7 O(M). For inward radial motion the four velocity is given by tri ( dt dr ) ( 1— 1 _ 2111 R /2M 2M ) dr' dr ' V r (1) where T is the proper time. The coordinate velocity (ti- n =— dr 14) can be integrated to yield tinfoil = 1? -1 Jr' dr vri (2) 2m ft While the result can be expressed analytically in closed form, it is not particularly illuminating. We shall later plot specific results for a variety of cases. For now, we observe that near the horizon dt 2M dr r — 2M giving tinfau = —2M log(r — 2M) + canal. (4) This illustrates the fact that infall times as seen by a distant observer diverge as the horizon is approached. We can cut off these divergences by considering infall times to regions arbitrarily close to the classical horizon. Consider for example, cutting off infall at a Schwarzchild coordinate distance of r = 2M + 1 (recall that we are using units here where Alp = 1). In order to determine the time taken for a distant ob- server to observe this infall we need to add to the infall time estimated above, the time it takes for a signal to come out to r = R from r = 2M -F 1 dr -2cr — r -F 2Al log(r — 2M.) 1:41+1 12 R toutgoing = at -F1 I — R— (2411 +1) + 2AI log(R — 2M) . (5) (3) EFTA01164244 2 lb determine specific numbers we consider R = 20M. For large Al one finds tinfrin/M 2 log M + 112 , to„ta„ing/M 2 log Al + 18 . (6) (7) We plot in figure 1 the infall, outgoing and total time in units of mass for various masses assuming R = 20M. The asymptotic behaviour described above is clearly visible. FIG. I: The solid curve is the time to get to r = 2M + 1, starting from It = 20M, the dashed curve is the time for a light signal to get back front that location and the dotted curve is the total time. The x-axis is logarithmic in Al and the times are measured in units of M. For reference, one solar mass is was. III. COLLAPSE TIME FOR A SELF-GRAVITATING SPHERICAL SHELL For completeness, we can compare this analysis of a particle falling inside the event horizon to the more rele- vant case of a spherical shell of material collapsing under its own gravity, using equations of motion worked out by Israel [15]. The speed in outside coordinates (there is a disconti- nuity in coordinates across the shell) is dt Al m = V m 2r dr _ 2A/ m 2AI 1/(Fa —1 + (8) where m is an integration parameter which can be taken to be the rest mass of the shell, and M is the mass pa- rameter for the external geometry. The shell comes to a rest at m 2 R = 2(rn - Al) which allows us to calculate m in terms of It m = R(1 - -2M ) (9) (10) If we consider initial configurations of infall such that R> M. Then the two roots become m M,2R. (11) The first root is then the appropriate one to choose in order to describe negative velocities, i.e. infall, and to get the correct ADM rest mass at infinity. We can plug this back into (8), and for the purposes of comparison take r = 20M so that again we can derive an expression for tr' which is not particularly illuminating, so we do not present it here. We can again integrate this expres- sion with respect to radial position to get the infall time, which we do numerically and plot in figure 2. FIG. 2: The collapse time for a self-gravitating shell to reach r = 2M + 1. The convention for the curves are as given in figure 1. Comparing the two figures we see that infall times vary by at mast 20-30% between the two cases, so that the analytically derived times for single test particle provide reasonable estimates to determine causality. IV. TEMPERATURE AND DISTANCE ESTIMATES AT VARIOUS CUTOFF RADII In order to consider various cutoff distances which maintain causality, we consider both local temperatures and proper distances from the horizon. The local temper- ature measured by a static observer at coordinate radius r, outside of the event horizon, is Tr — 1141 , (12) 1/1 — aL—u For p = r — 2M < 2fif this becomes 1 T,. 2NfisrVirp In particular at the location r — 2M = 1 one finds T2A1-1-1 2v/firOtt 1 (13) (14) EFTA01164245 3 so that the local temperature a coordinate distance of the Planck length away from the horizon is well below the Planck temperature. We can understand this quite simply by considering instead the proper distance from the horizon, i, d, (15) `12 dr M r For p — 2M < 2M we get P dp 2 d„f - • - • v/Wf f . (16) o v'P so a coordinate distance of 1 from the horizon is actually d2,w+i = 2 2A9. If instead we consider distance p = M -" we get d2m+m ^ = 2 \,5M(1-n)12 (17) so for n = 1 we get the proper distance from the horizon to be Planckian. The local temperature at this distance (i.e. for n = 1) is 1 1 1 W,1 87rM 2V2if O(1) . (18) So a proper Planck distance from the horizon, corre- sponding to a coordinate distance AI-1, also corresponds to a local Planck temperature. Using (5) and we can see that the time it takes a light signal to reach a distance n- R from a distance r — 2M n- M- " is, for large M to„/going =n- 2(n + 1)M log M . (19) Our earlier estimates imply the infall time for massive shell will also have a similar logarithmic dependence on M. Since MlooM c M3 it is clear that if we cut off infall at distances from the horizon comparable to regions where the local temperature is of order the Planck mass, objects will be observed by a distant observer to take significantly less time to infall than the evaporation time of the black hole. We can ask at what distance from the horizon the out- going time for a light ray to reach a distant observer will be of the order of evaporation timescale. That will oc- cur when r - 2M n- Me-m2 = Me-suck. The physical distance corresponding to this coordinate distance is dvd+aft_„2 = (20) As long as we cut off infall before this distance the black hole evaporation timescale will be longer than the formation timescale. It is interesting to note that the latter factor in the distance estimate is reminiscent of a tunneling scale but determining whether or not this is a coincidence would require a full quantum treatment. V. CONCLUSIONS Our calculations explicitly demonstrate the quantita- tive scale of the problem associated with timescales for evaporating black holes, but of course they do not deter- mine how to resolve this problem. Several possibilities do suggest themselves, however. Perhaps the fact that the existence of a horizon at r = 2M implies that the evaporation time of a black hole is longer than the formation time as seen by a distant observer suggests a literal solution-namely that a hori- zon does not have time to form, a S would be the case if radiation by infalling material was sufficient to cause full evaporation before horizon formation. As we have noted this would also resolve the information loss paradox as- sociated with black hole evaporation which was the chief motivation of earlier proposaLs of this possibility [3-5). Alternatively, some exotic quantum effects could ei- ther cause space-time fluctuations in the horizon radius, causing particles to be absorbed inside of the horizon in a finite time as observed by a distant observer. This how- ever would likely alter Hawking's radiation calculation, since emitted radiation at late times comes from very near the horizon, and thus would also be subject to the effects of a fluctuating horizon. Finally, perhaps some other catastrophic quantum gravity effects manifest themselves near the event horizon which would affect infall just outside of the horizon. This possibility is reminiscent of the suggestion of fuzzballs [3, 6-9), or firewalls [10-14). All of these possibilities imply a dramatic shift in our understanding of black hole physics and in particular the quantum processes that lead to Hawking radiation and evaporation. While they might resolve the semiclassical temporal paradox we have focused on here, all them beg an equally perplexing question: Why should quantum gravity processes be relevant to understanding physics near the event horizon even for arbitrarily large black holes, where the event horizon occurs at a macroscopi- cally large distance scale where quantum effects should naively be negligible? 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