EFTA Document EFTA01785790

From: Jeremy Rubin - Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 2:03 PM To: Jeffrey E. Subject: Re: That seems to fly in the =ace of net neutrality though. I'm not sure I'm fully in the net-ne=tral camp, but having guaranteed QoS and low anonymity will prevent people=from accessing websites that aren't pre-approved pre-vetted content.4=iv> OTOH I could see the need for a QoS guaranteed high latency low bandwi=th network (with origin) to enable the loT sector to build really intercon=ected real time products, without really threatening net neutrality. =div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=;font-size:small;color:#000000"> Knowing origin seems good; but this already exists within the i=ternet to an extent via public key crypto, although perhaps that leaves so=ething to be desired. • On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Jeffrey E. =span dir="ltr"><jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com» wrote: i agree with danny , just like =itcoin or other digital currencies. I think the la=d of binary decision . its either this or that, now usua=ly leads to the answer " both" Forwarded message From: Danny Hillis ><=span> Date: Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:33 AM Subject: Re: To: "j=ffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com» On the other hand, I wonder if this is a variant of=trumpism, we need to make the internet great again. At what point was it g=eat before? When their were but a select few who were able to access it; a=d everybody on it knew they would be meddled with a bit. Once it went too =ainstream no-longer was being a hacker (or even, user) of such systems an =t-your-own-risk endeavor, but was something that people depended on. =div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:=gb(0,0,0)"> Similar modern endeavors include Urbit, l=nked for posterity ht=ps://urbit.org <https://urbit.org> , which is mostly made incomprehensible for the point of=keeping out the un-enlightened. Urbit is supposed to re-imagine computing =s fundamentally distributed. EFTA_R1_00108168 EFTA01785790 I thin= it would require very close consideration to figure out why a new interne= is actually needed. Traditionally in CS we think of a distributed system =s striving to achieve Consistency, Availability, and Partition Tolerance (=ee Brewer's theorem, https://=ww.infoq.com/articles/cap-twelve-years-later-how-the-rules-have-changed <https://www.infoq.com/articles/ca=-twelve-years-later-how-the-rules-have-changed> I think that thinking in terms of these desirable=properties in terms of mutually exclusive groups is probably a useful way =o consider the design space. Another well known one is Zooko's triangl=: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooko%27s_triangle. In any case, I've gone on a slight tangen=. My point is it's one thing to say you want a new internet because of=a theoretical (or not so theoretical) button, it's another to have mot=ve enough to actually build such a new network. Asides from the button, wh=t properties seem critical to you? On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:08 AM, Jeffrey E. =span dir="ltr"><jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: I liked the idea of internet 2.0 =AO encouraged by the reset switch. =AO please note The information=contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client=privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for=br>the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized =se, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is =trictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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